La Troisième Mère / La Terza Madre / Mother of Tears (Dario Argento - 2007)

La trilogie des Trois mères a commencé avec deux films : Suspiria (1976) et Inferno (1979). Le premier, classique du giallo, très inspiré par le cinéma de Narcisso Ibanez Serrador (La résidence); le second, l'un des opus les plus controversés d'Argento, thriller abstrait et terrifiant qui emmenait dans des contrées extrêmes.

Ce troisième volet est une occasion également pour Argento de retrouver l'inestimable Udo Kier (déjà dans Suspiria) et, plus discrètement, Massimo Sarchielli (vu dans Ladyhawke, la femme de la nuit). L'action du film se déroulera à Rome. Une étudiante en art (Asia, évidemment) ouvre sans le vouloir une urne antique. Cet acte ne sera pas conséquence: c'est le début d'une descente aux enfers, de rencontres hasardeuses et de situations tarabiscotées. Le tournage débute en Italie le 30 octobre prochain

La fiche du film...



Genre : Horreur
Date de sortie française : Indéterminée
Réalisateur : Dario Argento
Avec Asia Argento, Valeria Golino, Daria Nicolodi, Coralina Cataldi Tassoni et autres
Production : Medusa Film, Myriad Pictures Inc.
Format de tournage : 35mm
Couleur

Fiches Film :
http://www.ecranlarge.com/movies-details-6336.php
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0804507/
http://www.allocine.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=111728.html
http://www.cinemovies.fr/fiche_film.php?IDfilm=14010
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Mother

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/film/1024

http://desperatezombie.mabulle.com/index.php/2007/06/13/69086-mother-of-tears-nouvelles-photos-gores
http://www.mad-movies.com/news.php?id=989
http://www.horreur.net/news-626.html?PHPSESSID=c21be3254a0c8c0da05c916c199d250b

Trailer screener :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDdp2cZdVPs

Le topic sur DVDClassik

Fiches dvd et blu-ray :
http://www.dvd-fr.com/dvd/f39043_mother_of_tears_-_la_troisieme_mere.html
http://www.dvd-fr.com/dvd/f150658_mother_of_tears_-_la_troisieme_mere_blu-ray_disc.html

"Suspiria", deucième volet de cette trilogie, est diffusé ce soir sur ARTE a 22 heures 45

le jour où je m'en vais...

Ca me donne envie de pleurer.

Ben pleures...

Je vais tenter de l'enregistrer, tout comme "Le Seigneur des Anneaux" ce soir.

ah argento , je t'aime...

J'attends beaucoup ce film.
J'adore Suspiria de Dario Argento, et j'espère que ce nouveau chapitre sera une merveille dont il a le secret.

Youpi !
Encore un fan d'Argento !

Ha oui très "fan".
J'aime toute sa première période, celle qui tourné autour de l'ésotérisme, la renaissance du giallo après les films des formidables Mario bava et Lucio fulci qui ont donné les meilleurs films du genre.
J'attends beaucoup de la conclusion de la trilogie des mères, même si j'ai un peu peur à cause de ses derniers films.
Il parait qu'il a réalisé un téléfilm récent faisant partie d'une série réalisée par plusieurs specialistes de l'horreur.
Je ne suis pas bien au courant, quelqu'un peut-il m'aiguiller ?

Va jeter un oeil ici.

Merci beaucoup.
Très belle critique.

Ca fait toujours plaisir.

Jean-Sol Partre a écrit:

Merci beaucoup.
Très belle critique.

Bad Taste a écrit:

Ca fait toujours plaisir.

j'te jure...
comment que je l'attend de pied ferme ce film

Ash a écrit:

Jean-Sol Partre a écrit:

Merci beaucoup.
Très belle critique.

Bad Taste a écrit:

Ca fait toujours plaisir.

j'te jure...

Oui, je sais.
J'ai un peu honte.
Mais au moins, ça a fait vivre le topic pendant qq jours.

Un immense merci à mannhunter qui ne lira probablement jamais ces lignes (qui sont les siennes ).

mannhunter a écrit:

Petite interview d'Argento ici:

http://www.dvdrama.com/news.php?20681&page=2

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ouverture du site italien de Dario... :

http://www.darioargento.it

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Quelques images en plus du dernier Argento...Spoilers!!:

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=1039

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=15460463

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Dario Argento interviewé à Toronto:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWzFhXDVB-Q

mannhunter a écrit:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33873



LTM will not be Argento's last film!


EXCL: Dario Argento Interview
Source: Ryan RottenAugust 31, 2007


Over twenty-five years have passed since the second chapter in Italian auteur Dario Argento's Three Mothers trilogy unraveled. 1977's unpleasant and abstract trip through the world of witchcraft in Suspiria paved the way for the equally colorful, gleefully violent Inferno in 1980 - both of which introduced audiences to the Mother of Whispers and the Mother of Darkness, respectively. This October, Mother of Tears, Argento's long-awaited finale debuts at the Toronto International Film Festival and in Italy the following month.

Even with the noticeable onset of a cold, Argento was kind enough to grant ShockTillYouDrop.com some time to sit down and talk about "Tears" at the Rue Morgue Festival of Fear. A gaunt but animated creature, he wears slacks, a dark zip-up sweater and collared shirt. During our all-too-brief conversation, his English delves into mere sounds and hand gestures to evoke a feeling - making us wish we brushed up on our Italian for a deeper rapport. At times he pauses to take in the odd sites around us - kids dressed in anime costumes or "walking advertisements" - hired hands with televisions strapped to their shoulders playing commercials for "The Family Guy." We wonder what this must all look like through his dark, questioning eyes...this level of fan-like dedication. But then again, it was two writers and their reverence for Argento's works that helped bring Mother of Tears to fruition.

Speaking first of the inciting factors that got "Tears" to roll, Argento says it was neither the "right time" nor the demand from his fans that spurred inspiration. "The idea arose from the story I had first. Then I met the right people like writers Adam [Giersasch] and Jace [Anderson]." Gierasch and Anderson, each hardcore giallo fans in their own right, previously penned Tobe Hooper's The Toolbox Murders. "Working with them was a very natural process. The director needs something like an intuition and they had an infectious enthusiasm. This is the reason I chose them, because I understood in their eyes that they want to do something with the film and my story. I was just happy. We met in Los Angeles during the editing on [the "Masters of Horror" episode] 'Jenifer', then they both came to Rome, we worked together and wrote the screenplay."

Modern day Rome falls victim to the film's eponymous witch (Mater Lachrymarum) when she is unwittingly released by an art student. Argento called upon a number of familiar faces from his previous efforts to co-star including Coralina Cataldi-Tassoni, Daria Nicolodi and Udo Kier. In the leading role? His daughter Asia who has appeared in previous Dario flicks like Trauma, The Stendhal Syndrome and The Phantom of the Opera. Their history of collaborations have raised eyebrows; since "Phantom," Asia has gone on to become a director in her own right.

"From the beginning I knew Asia was going to be in this," Argento says. "Every day she helped me with a lot ideas. She's a director so she brought some good ideas to the table, she was a great collaboration. She's changed now. For a long time I didn't work with her. I've see her grow up in front of me, from 13 to 16 to 20. I filmed all of these changes, now she's bigger. I'm seen her growth artistically and physically."

He has also watched his Three Mothers trilogy significantly expand. "The film is the biggest of the trilogy. The scope is big. The special [visual] FX from Lee Wilson in Vancouver...he has a good company. We have many special FX in the film, it's very different." Handling the practical side of the blood-soaked effects is vet Sergio Stivaletti whose Argento credits include Phenomena and Opera. Luckily, before our meeting, this writer witnessed some of the film's extreme kills, one involving a monkey acting as a harbinger of evil. "The monkey is good!" Argento exclaims when we tell him this. We agree...the monkey is good.

Two "Masters of Horror" episodes - "Jenifer" and the grisly "Pelts," featuring Meatloaf as a filleted horny hog of a man - primed Argento for the undertaking that was Mother of Tears. One gets the sense, especially by the end of "Pelts" that this conductor of crimson wetwork was reinvigorated by these exercises in small screen horror fare. "It was good because the producers gave me confidence and freedom," Argento enthuses. "I was free to invent anything I wanted. Nobody said, 'Careful, don't be too strong for TV because of the censors.' For the last fifteen years I've heard people tell me to be careful, and something profound touched me on [these episodes]. I didn't have censors. I was so flattered. In America I was so happy and strong and every day I was," he thrusts out his chest and squeezes his fists, head high and growling. "Just one time in 'Jenifer' did they have to cut - the penis and the oral sex. I re-discovered myself. When I started to prepare the Third Mother, I said, 'Now I'm changed, I come back to my roots I want to do something strong, don't say anything to me.' And the producers respected me. After fifteen years I feel very strong, I'm happy."

Argento is openly disparaging of early films Four Flies on Grey Velvet and Cat 'O Nine Tails, so we ask if there was anything he has done within that last fifteen years that disappointed him the most. "Maybe the 'Phantom of the Opera,'" he responds after a pause. "I did that film because it was the first horror film I saw in my life as a child. I was on vacation with my brother and I saw the 'Phantom of the Opera' with Claude Raines. I was impressed - very impressed - and I wanted to give homage to the film. Again, maybe I'd do it again different."

Contrary to some reports, Argento says Mother of Tears is not his final film and that he is not retiring.

Abruptly, the overhead lights cut out on our interview. "What is this?" Argento inquires, wide-eyed. Good question - I expect a black-gloved killer to sneak up and strangle us both with an electrical chord. Alas, nothing that exciting occurs. Just a power surge. The lights come on and the only scary thing I discover is one more anime fan dressed to the hilt as some dude with a massive cardboard sword peering through the doorway. For Argento, it's a full afternoon of interviews while nursing whatever bug he has.

mannhunter a écrit:

Interview d'Argento à Toronto en 1990:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQcvZJQm3o0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqVhnjsmxwc&mode=related&search=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C--7AVM6N8o&mode=related&search=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1PMs9jicw4&mode=related&search=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k00c-5Csc6k&mode=related&search=

mannhunter a écrit:

Dario et son pote George!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5wSLgURgfY

un article du L.A. Times,petite preview du film:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-toronto5sep05,0,3830046.story?coll=la-headlines-calendar

Ce type est un don du ciel.

mannhunter a écrit:

Le trailer américain!!!

attention spoilers :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyM4w6dNMfg

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Re!

Quelques échos (Dark Dreams,Imdb,Rue Morgue...) sur le dernier Argento présenté hier à Toronto...:

"Saw this tonight amazing film. Scary gory even funny Argento in his prime. Audience sang happy birthday to him."

"was interesting, he clearly has a thing for monkeys. and asia gets nude, Yeah !!!
and its his birthday today, it was a special night, never to be repeated"

"Details, I can't give you folks right now it being 3:45am, but, the monkey is worth the show, the look is very natural as opposed to the more gel-like blues, reds, and greens etc. The acting wasn't bad. The dialogue is more informative than any of them from what I remember. The scare factor is there for jumps anyways. I'll have to be more detailed tomorrow. I am beat. I liked it is all I can say right now... Music is very subtle. I was impressed over all."

"Wow, I loved every minute of this besides the fire alarm. Classic sleezefest and overall great, trashy time at the movies. The gore was awesome and first time I've ever found Argento to be punchy. There's a stinger along the lines of the Exorcist 3 hospital scene.

I've never gone into an Argento flick looking for great dialogue. But felt a lot of the goofy stuff he was totally in on and winking. Think there was a lot more fucking with the audience than a lot of people were aware of.

I'll say it again, man the gore was awesome!"

"i didnt think it was crap. it was exactly like all the other films we all love and cherish on this board (eg story, acting etc). i dont know what you guys are complaing about. i loved it.

next time a guy like dario argento does a world premier with his awesome hot daughter on his birthday and we all sing happy birthday to him...you're not invited."


"My initial thoughts are overall very positive, and I'll keep this spoiler free. As Argento's later work goes, I would say this film is Argento's best since at least The Stendhal Syndrome, and probably since Opera. In The Third Mother, Argento really seems bent on pushing the envelope on gore, and generally accepted good taste...to the joy of legions of gore hounds. The end result is a very fun film; however, this film is a far cry from the other two films in the "Three Mothers Trilogy" and fails to live up to the standard Argento set with his earlier work.

There is a lot to like about The Third Mother. Argento, at a higher level than I have seen from him in the past, really ratchets up the sleeze in this film. There are moments of random nudity and sexuality that feel as if they are yanked straight from the great euro-trash films of the seventies. At times, the film resembles a post-modern riff on Sergio Martino with a dash of Jess Franco. For Argento, this really felt like new territory as, at least in terms of sexuality, I have always felt that he was much more conservative than many of his seventies counterparts. Not so with The Third Mother.

The gore, and brutality behind that gore (especially aimed at women), is glorious. I cannot rave enough about that gore. One scene in particular involving a jaw and some intestines is simply brilliant. I squirmed and a smile covered every inch of my face. One of my favorite kills in any film, ever. For that alone, this film was something special for me, and thankfully, Argento is not finished. He throws gory buckets of blood and guts around throughout the film, much of it of a very taboo nature. No one is off limits in this film. I got the feeling that Argento was ready and willing to do anything, and that was thrilling. It's been awhile since I've felt that in a theater.

The acting in this film, led by Asia Argento, is also fine, especially for an Argento film. I had heard the dialogue in The Third Mother was a bit rough, and the dubbing rougher, but that's simply not true. Both are as good as, if not better than, most Argento films. The story is fairly nonexistent, but again, for a "Three Mothers" film, that's pretty par for the course. No harm, no foul. The dialogue, dubbing, and story (or lack thereof) take absolutely nothing away from this film.

So while my enthusiasm for this film is very high, I do feel the need to point out some things I did not like about the film. Missing from the film was much of the wonder that is so present in Suspiria and Inferno. The Third Mother, like it's predecessors, is a film set in a supernatural world. But I never felt that otherworldliness that is so blanketed over the first two films of this trilogy. No moment where Suzy Banyon is frozen, walking down the hall in Suspiria...no moment where a demon (or Satan himself?) chases a girl from a library. There are of course nods to the supernatural, but it feels forced...disingenuous even.

Also missing is some of the grand camera work that really separates Argento's early work from many of his contemporaries. Nothing like the plaza sequences from Suspiria or Profondo Rosso. No rooftop take like in Tenebre. No slow-mo sequences like in Phenomena. Early in this film, there are some very cool uses of the camera, but overall, like most of Argento's recent work, the cinematography is nothing exceptional. It's unfair that Argento will always be compared to his past work, but the comparison is also impossible, at least for me, to ignore.

But the biggest bummer about The Third Mother is Claudio Simonetti's score. It's downright depressing. It feels so "movie-of-the-week." Like an old Lone Ranger episode even. There were some cool vocal highlights, but even that seemed a bit tired...like standard "devil movie/witch movie we have to have scary chanting" music. Suspiria and Inferno both have scores that tap into your soul, scores that pull you into Argento's world. This score is completely unimpressive, and at times, dopey. And it really bums me out to write that.

Other might complain about the ending, or lack thereof...but it's Dario Argento we're talking about...he's goddamn brilliant, but also doesn't really know how to end a movie. No problem on that...I actually find it charming. And I really hope I don't come across as overly negative. I don't mean to be. The Third Mother, while not a complete return to form for the great director, is certainly a very worthy and welcome addition to Argento's oeuvre. It's his best work in a long, long time...and I am so happy for that.

Here's hoping that Argento continues to push the envelope, continues challenging taboos, and continues to bring his dark dreams to the screen for a long time to come (but with a better score!)."


http://www.rue-morgue.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20412

http://moviemartyr.blogspot.com/

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et ton Asia est nue dedans

Veux voir ce film!!

J'étais certain que c'était l'information que tu retiendrais.

c'est normal aussi non?

La fille filmée par le père dans l'ultime volet des three mothers qui s'annonce poutrant, je ne dis pas non

Ash a écrit:

c'est normal aussi non?

Si tu n'avais pas retenu cette information, cela aurait été plus qu'antinomique.

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Si tu n'avais pas retenu cette information, cela aurait été plus qu'antinomique.

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